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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 09:59:00 -
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There is a bit of confusion in this thread. The wreck spawns as a result of your actions, but you don't create it. Hence you have no rights to it that are exclusive, outside of being able to tractor it. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Neoexecutor
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium There is a bit of confusion in this thread. The wreck spawns as a result of your actions, but you don't create it. Hence you have no rights to it that are exclusive, outside of being able to tractor it.
So is mining ore. Ore is the result of your actions, but you don't create it. Anything can be labeled as a result of your actions and not the fruit of your work using this logic.
If you owned the asteroid you would have an appropriate counter argument. But this only shows that what I've said applies as a general case. Asteroid is to wreck as salvage is to ore. It doesn't belong to you until you cycle the mining laser or salvager, which creates the ore or salvage, which belongs to you after you take this action, and is deposited in your cargo hold. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 You have a point since ccp said they wanted it like that.My point is that is that theres nothing free in eve.Some may say ore is free but it costs you time as well.Why should a ninja salvager be able to zip in without risk and help himself to the salvage?
He doesn't just zip in, he must spend time finding the mission, by scanning you down (and not knowing if your doing a mission until he gets there, thereby risking wasting his time), he must then spend time approaching the wreck, he then must cycle the salvager. This is all a risk in possible time wasted, possibly too slow.
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Not only that but think about what Im asking for a second.Wouldn't it be a lot more fun if the chance to fight for it existed?
Only fun for some, which would effectively change nothing. How it is now is only fun for some, and how it would be if your changes were implemented would only be fun for some. Ergo, no reason to expend resources coding a change to a system that was intentional in the first place.
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Missionrunner creates wreck
No, wreck spawns as a result of mission runner activity. Originally by: HeIIfire11 ..ninja comes to claim it..missionrunner has the choice to defend it.
You have the choice to defend it now, that choice has consequences Originally by: HeIIfire11 9 times out of 10 thats what the ninja wants anyway.
I wish I was omniscient. Originally by: HeIIfire11 Wheres the problem?CCP said so and fanboys follow.Nothing speaks against it really.
CCP said so and all players follow. If you play their game you literally have no choice but to play by their rules. This is not opinion, it is fact.
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Everyone wants the carebears to pvp well heres another small step to get them to do so.
I think you mean everyone who isn't a carebear wants the carebears to pvp. But CCP is better served by catering, or at least attempting to, to all their customers. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Neoexecutor
Quote: Asteroid is to wreck as salvage is to ore.
Except that one is effortlessly created by the server and another one is spawned by the efforts of players.
No, one is spawned as the result of player activity, both are created by the server. Both are resources to be harvested by anyone in range with the appropriate harvesting tool. In fact, there are objects not spawned as a result of player activity which produce salvage and are accessed by a salvager. So wrecks are actually a subsumed case of a much larger category of harvestable objects accessed by the salvager. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 I've addressed almost everything you said in this thread already.Dont jump to the last page and get all in my koolaid because you're to lazy to read it.Sorry there is no TL;DR version.
You addressed nothing, you provided lame insults and tautologies. It has nothing to do with laziness, no one wants to read crap churned out by an inferior mind. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 As far as no one wanting to read it wrong again..3,075 people wanted to read it.Cut that in half because of all the frequent posters and its still a lot for one night.So it seems that the topic does interest people.
3,075 people read the thread. Idiot. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Halcyon Ingenium on 24/04/2011 12:27:23
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: HeIIfire11 As far as no one wanting to read it wrong again..3,075 people wanted to read it.Cut that in half because of all the frequent posters and its still a lot for one night.So it seems that the topic does interest people.
3,075 people read the thread. Idiot.
Who's insulting now? You mad bro?
About your stupidity? No. I am never mad that others are inferior. The only thing that bothered me in this whole thread is when you lied about being a PhD and a professor. My friends who do have such positions would never stoop to being insolent and are literally incapable of showing the level of wanton stupidity you have shown. But the nine and possibly more pages of you proving yourself to be a liar have made it better.
Edit: Woops, that was Amarraz, thought I had got that wrong, and turns out I did. I am not wrong about you being insolent or wantonly stupid though. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
About your stupidity? No. I am never mad that others are inferior. The only thing that bothered me in this whole thread is when you lied about being a PhD and a professor. My friends who do have such positions would never stoop to being insolent and are literally incapable of showing the level of wanton stupidity you have shown. But the nine and possibly more pages of you proving yourself to be a liar have made it better.
Lol you go with your bad self
Only one problem..I know reading is hard but if you sound it out and try again you will find that I said no such thing.That was Amarraz.
Again..read the flippin thread before trying to look smart.Here I'll quote it for you.
Originally by: Amarraz I have a Ph.D. and am a professor, so I'm not especially dumb.
Corrected it minutes before you posted. So yawn. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2011.05.02 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia You know what else would do that? Making mission deadspace work like lowsec.
Oh they would never agree to that. Balls would suddenly shrivel and disappear if that were implemented. On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? ________________________________________________
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